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I read with interest your 'christian perspective' which is on the web.
I don't quite understand where you are coming from, but I felt the need to
clarify a few points. I listen to Focus almost dai
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I am sorry - Have you read an of Dobson's books, indepth. He
recognizes that we are a people of grace. And grace doesn't
make us totally perfect now. It prvides for the present and
the future. Grace places a one way mirror between God and man.
God knows we are sinful, yet Jesus is that mirror. From God's
perspective he only sees Jesus, not our sin.
Focus On The Family believes this. WHere did you get your infor-
mation? I would like to talk more with you on this. You also
question a "typical family unit". What did you mean?
I am a good listener. I will not judge you. Let's dialogue!
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Brian you are truely a sick person. Your view of "Why Focus On The
Family is of the Devil" is distorted if not outright blasphemous. A true
christian does not speak as you are. While it is true that trying "act"
as a christian without having Christ as Lord will cause some very real
problems what you have written is, in my opinion, OF THE DEVIL. I will
pray that you see truth and stop this slander, which you should be very
cautious of.
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i find it interesting that most of the letters to the editor that
agree with you are coming from non-believers. It is a simple
decision Jesus Christ asks everyone one of us to make: Choose Life
or not to choose Life. It would seem to me that you have chosen not
to choose Christ as those who agree with you are pointing out. But,
there is Hope. Elroy, repent of your sins and ask Jesus Christ into
your life. Then, go back and listen to Dobson.
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Dear Elroy,
What is it that you believe? I've just read two of your articles. I
can't figure out where you are coming from. You are either so bright or you
talk in a language I can't understand.
Life is precious to God. Don't kid yourself into believing that Solomon
was advocating abortion. Remember Solomon was a wise man--the wisest earthly
man by far--but still a man and he was sinful. I can't understand why people
can't get it--you would not be here if you had not started out as a fetus.
Everything you are today started the moment of conception--that was you.
Who has the right to take that life away from you--only God.
This is probably a stupid thing to even send you. You are obviously so
much brighter than I am--God has made you that way. But, I feel sorry for
you. You were so hard on Focus on the Family and James Dobson. I hate to
tell you that God loves James and his crew and he and the other
Christians of
that organization are working to help people not hurt them. I will try to
remember to pray for you Elroy. I hope that you truly know how much God
loves you and He sent His Son for you, as well as for me.
Lighten up and love the way God wants us to love each other. If you are a
believer, than work on building one another up and leading more souls unto
our Lord.
From a Child of the King and thankful to be one!!!
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Mr. McKinley....
When I first read your articles relating to Focus on the Family and Abortion,
I was stunned. I could not believe that one who implies that he is a
Christian would hold such contrary views with what is clearly written in the
Bible...despite your attempts to rationalize that your views are
supported be
the Bible.
In hindsight, I conclude that you-and not Focus on the Family, or other
Christian organizations-are Satanic in your perspectives. Your prejudices
lead you to create a god that suits your purposes, rather than to discover
the True God who rules the universe. May God bless you by allowing you to
see through the prejudices that blind you, and that you discover and worship
the True God who created you.
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How arrogant of you. The only response to you that was agreeable with
you was from someone who so very proudly reminded us of his IQ and
degree. He is not the only intelligent person. Pride is something we
are suppose to overcome through Christ. Pride
in Christ not ourselves. As a person who has read many of Dobson's books
since 1975 and listen to his program daily for a year, You are so far off
base, I can't believe you know what or who you are talking about. Do
your research, please.
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Mr. McKinley,
your article "Why Focus on the Family is of the Devil" is simply garbage!
First of all, you speak in generalities. Mr. Dobson makes it clear that
he is not a minister. Furthermore, instead of being critical of Focus,
you should be out helping to promote the well being of families.
Furthermore, you have some out right lies in your article. Namely, your
third paragraph from the bottom states that one will never hear about the
problems that the people at Focus have in their daily lives. This is a
lie. On many occasions, Dr. Dobson has stated "...Mike I struggle with
that same exact problem..." etc.
If you are bitter about something with them, or problems in your own
life, your energy would be better spent rectifying them instead of
being the devil's right hand man in tearing down ministries that are
truly making a difference for Christ.
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Adding or subtracting from the word of God as given in the 66 books,
is subject to Damnation. Read the last chapter of Revelation. Also read
about the false teachers who will come to claim they know more than God
knows. That's logical eh? God's i
nfinite wisdom, and a mere human saying they know better? Illogical
beyond reason. Sorry, but God makes no exceptions when it comes to
Christ. You either know him as the God of the universe and accept that
He paid all your sins past present future, or
you decide when you stand before God Almighty and the Great White Throne
Judgement "Oh, I decided that I knew more than you do." Sorry but that
will not work.
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I believe you are exaggerating a bit when you say this new believers
problems with sin are all caused by Focus on the Family. James Dobson
and the many of the guests on the program do not claim to be the perfect
Christian and they don't claim to lead sinless lives. They show how
Jesus has worked in their lives and in trustin in the Holy Spirit one can
strive and make steps to live a life holy worthy of God's calling. I
don't believe by any means that James Dobson claims to be sinless on his
show or in his books. What good is a book that tells how this life on
earth is hopeless. God has promised us abundant life hear on earth when
we accept him as our Savior and James Dobson and many of his guests are
just showing some steps that they've taken in thier lives that have
helped them to overcome some sin and bondages in thier life. I don't
believe they are taking away from Christ's example, but showing that
through Jesus we can overcome sin. When we accept Christ we are dead to
sin and we are a new creation. James Dobson has never taken credit for
the spiritual life he lives and he does not claim to be sinless. I think
it is ignorant to say that "Focus on the Family" is of the Devil and that
it leads more people away from Christ than to Him. James Dobson is being
obedient the the Word and he is preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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Dear Brian:
I read your perspective on Focus on the Family and do not agree
with your views. Each of us looks at situations from a
different perspective and many times, we need to ask God to
remove the scales from our eyes and ears so we can see and hear
Him speaking to us. Your perspective implies that you looked
at Focus on the Family and other religious sources as "God."
They are vehicles to carry forth God's word. However, it is
our individual responsibility to hold them accountable by
validating what they say against what is in the Bible. Is what
they are saying and how they are living in conformance with the
Word of God or is it in contradiction. None of us can be
perfect as God's Word says, however, we are to strive toward
perfection to run the race that has been set before us unto the
high calling of the Lord. We all struggle to do things
perfectly, and honestly I don't always. But, I get on my knees
and pray and seek God's strength to help me from erring again.
I listen to Focus on the Family and I have heard them talk
about how difficult it is for all of us to live as we should
and do not get the idea or perception that they place
themselves as a standard by which we are to measure ourselves.
When I talk with other Christians I am not sharing openly with
them my failures --- that's between me and God.
The word "failure" appeared throughout your essay numerous
times. Your focus on the negative versus positive probably has
tainted your outlook on your entire religious experience. Look
to God as your example on how to live your life and take your
eyes off Focus on the Family. We are all sinners and come
short of the Glory of God. We are to strive to do good and not
continuously repeat our sins. Then, there are those of us that
cannot seem to free ourselves from a specific "sinful" thing.
I don't know whether you developed any close relationships with
other Christians in your church that you could talk to about
your problems who would agree to pray with you about them.
That is also why we have Pastors and the Church to help us
during those tough times. You are not alone --there is a whole
world of people struggling with situations that consider
themselves Christians. God does deliver us from our demons but
we must develop that relationship with him and seek His help
and those from our Christian friends. Read His word constantly
and talk to Him. And, I mean really talk to Him. God never
said the road would be easy...He said it would be worth it! A
sojourner on the way to that mansion in the sky!
"I lift up my eyes unto the hills. From whence does my help
come? My help comes from the Lord, who made heaven and earth.
PSA 12:1-2 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than
our heart, and knoweth all things. 1John 3:20 But if we walk
in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one
with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth
us from all sin. 1John1:7
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Brian,
The task I set for myself, to try to understand your concept of the
"Culture of Christianity" was too much for me to accomplish on my
lunch hour. (I am reaching you from my office. I will send this
before I go home today.) I will have to keep working on it and
respond when I return home. Sorry I was not able to keep to my own
schedule.
May the Spirit of God bless and teach us both.
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Dear Brian
I think your commentary is not worth responding to. I think you need to
do some serious soul searching and realize that Christ accepts you as you
are. I too have serious concerns about Christianity in this country, but
your dialogue is not worthy of academic discussion. We all need to serve
Christ better. I praise Focus on the Family for their efforts to help
keep us on the course.
A believer
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Brian,
I can not believe what a warpped sense of being a Christian you have. =
Anyone rooted in the word would have to laugh a your ideas even though =
they are well written. I would be very interested in knowing what,if =
any, denomination you worship with. =20
consider yourself on our prayer chain. =20
p.s. I have been known to listen to focus on the family. I think the =
devil may be working closer to your home that through the radio. Jesus =
would never agree to the killing of millions of babies.
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I, like everyone this side of paradise, am subject to cultural
influences. I'm also subject to developing my own self-reasoned
opinions. I'm always in danger of being influenced by other men,
who are teaching and preaching things that may be in error.
"There is a way that seems right to men, but which leads to death."
We all stand in danger of following false doctrines, the doctrines of
demons who are infinitely wiser (as serpents) than are we human babies.
After all, demons have had eons to develop their schemes and to gather
useful knowlege to gain the advantage over us.
I have engaged in debate with many young people who are trying
desperately to prove there is a not a true Hell. Who do not
want to accept that there are clear rights and wrongs (they are not
negotiable, God does not negotiate with mere man). Who don't want
to believe that God will condemn most men to eternal death.
Most of these people are trying to justify their sins (to have their sins
and
still reap nirvana). One cannot ignore the Bible in those areas where
it is clearly speaking without allegory. Sodomy is a sin. An entire
city was destroyed because of this sin. You can easily prove from
scripture that God has a special hatred for sexual perversion. Sexual
perversion is listed in almost every book of the Bible as being an
example of behavior that will lead to eternal death.
Were I a practicing homosexual, I would live in terror of the Bible
and of God's judgement. I too would go to great extremes to
rationalize away my peril. I might go so far as to adopt truths from
other religions and philosophies, so that I am not left having to
depend entirely on what the Bible says.
We must remember that simply knowing Jesus is the Christ, and
acknowledging that he is the Son of Man and the Son of God is not
by itself sufficient to salvation. The demons always acknowledged
both of these facts. We must submit to him, through the omnipresent
Holy Spirit, and allow him to rule our lives. Such lives are
without sin, as a result. If your young man still lives in sin, and
can't come up to a Holy standard, then he is trying to be sinless
as an exercise in the flesh. This is impossible. He must be totally
yielded to the
Lord. Then the Lord will save him, and will not lose him.
If I practiced abortion as a means of birth control, I would similarly
fear for my eternal soul. To have an abortion, and to then repent of
that abortion does not keep me out of the Kingdom. But, the keycommends
the politicians when they do something
right-no matter what party they are in.
One the issue of abortion-I believe there really is one only real
choice.
Do you think that if you have the love of our Jesus in your heart that you
would be able to kill a helpless child? I've been involved on the abortion
issue on both sides and almost every women that I have talked to has
regretted having a abortion. Just because the baby is not born yet doesn't
not mean it is not alive. Focus on the Family is a strong anti-abortion
supporter and I think thats great. The only way I see a abortion as ok is
if the mother will die from giving birth. Thats still kind of iffy in my
head still.
Homosexuality. It says right there in any bible thats is absolutely
wrong
! There's no two sides to that issue. There are plenty of examples of God
striking back at people who carried out that lifestyle(floods).
Homosexuality is the Devil's way of messing up something that is the most
beutilful thing God every made. To tell you the truth before I got married
I was very sexually active even thought I knew it was wrong. The night of
my honeymoon when me and my new bride made love it was completely different
-we were joined together in spirit. That is such a strong bond that can
never be broken. God made sex and I say Yee Haa!!!! to that. But you have
to rember that whatever God creates that is holy the devil will try to
corrupt that. He has corrupted the sexual act very much!! Just look whats
on the Internet!!!!! I could hardly believe it. When I saw all that trash
I decide to make my home page and dedicate it to Christ.
The only question I have for you is this-if you know that focus on the
family does bring people to Jesus why do you trash it so much?
To be honest I really thought you were going to be christian hating
jerk.
You seem rather nice and really smart. Thanks for reading this long letter
. Please keep iponding to , but I will anyway. The problem
with Christainity today is the fact that some preaching from our pulpits
are becoming apologetic ---"Having a form of Godliness but denying the
power thereof"......Sorry if someone is finally saying something that
will cause a stirring in our spirits. Our young believer should subject
his thoughts to God for cleansing and change his focus from what God
thinks of him and not what man thinks.
Thanks.
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Enjoyed reading your writings, very thought
provoking. I liked your revision of the "Good Samaritan"
The institutionalization of the Church has many sad side effects.
The area that troubles me the most is the condemnation of sinful
living to the point of making people believe that they are not
worthy of the grace of Jesus. The church tells people to try
hard to live righteous lives and if they don't then they aren't
"good" Christians. If we could live righteous lives we wouldn't
need Jesus.
In Christ,
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Dear Brian
I think your commentary is not worth responding to. I think you need to
do some serious soul searching and realize that Christ accepts you as you
are. I too have serious concerns about Christianity in this country, but
your dialogue is not worthy of academic discussion. We all need to serve
Christ better. I praise Focus on the Family for their efforts to help
keep us on the course.
A believer
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Mr. McKinley, your website saddens me greatly. As you know from the
Bible, God is characterized by infinite love. Jesus said all the
commandments can be summarized as in the command to love God and one's
neighbors. We are further informed that our testimony to the world is
to be one of love: "See how they love one another." By this we can
know (identify) one another.
Your site displays little of love, and much of anger and hatred. By
this, I know you are a false teacher. I take no pleasure in making this
charge. But you are clearly among those who call darkness "light", and
evil "good." I pray that God will open your eyes, for he loves you far
beyond my or your ability to love.
As a disciple of Christ, I am instructed to contend for the faith,
and to be a zealous advocate for Christ. This is why I write you,
though I fear my words will be as sounding brass, because your ears are
stopped by your hatred of Christians.
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Brian,
I read your editorial (?) concerning Focus on the Family being of the Devil.
Simply put, you are as off base and misguided as you can be. Nothing is 100%
of God (except the Bible), any thing that a Christian does, says, or is
involved with can have negative results. By taking one possible scenario
and playing it out to a negative possible conclusion does not prove
anything. In fact, it could be stated that your own editorial is "of the
Devil". Perhaps someone will stumble across your web page and read it.
Perhaps they are new to the faith, and perhaps after reading it they decide
that Christianity is a farce. After all, here is an one Christian accusing
another of being of the Devil. You see Satan can take, and has been given
the OK to do so by God, anything and use it to further his cause. Your
"young man" as a new Christian should have become a member of a local
Church. A church whose members consist of men, women, and children that form
a Christian family. Together they share their struggles, their triumphs, and
even their fears. But it is together they strengthen each other, disciple
each other, and as the Bible says, sharpen each other as iron does iron. I
pray that you find a church family like that, it is what Christ intended the
Church to be. With all its warts and shortcomings (after all it consists of
fallible humans) the Church is still the best institution on Earth.
God Bless,
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It's seems you're lacking in some common
sense on your scornful
criticism on Dr. Dobson. Every time I listen to there show I hear
stories of how people have had severe hardships and through Christ
intervention have gotten through it. Many of them have not gotten
through it but have a testimony in how they still rely on Christ.
Through out the Bible God uses people. Normal every day people who
when
led by God have become great pillars of our faith. There are people
like
that today who because of there experiences can help others get through
hard times. NEVER have I heard them put anyone before Jesus Christ. I
also find that while Focus on the Family spends there time seeking
information to inform, educate, and further the cause of Christ you, on
the other hand spend your time creating nonsense criticisms you
obviously know nothing about. You seem very bitter towards them which
leads me to believe you need some healing in your heart. Only Christ
can
supply this for you. I'll pray for you as I would for any brother in
Christ.
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Hi Brian,
I just wanted to tell you that I think you are wrong about Focus on the
Family. If you perceive them to be of that loser below, then you must
also percieve all of their guest speakers in that light--that is a pretty
arrogant accusation especially for the apparent lack of supporting
evidence. Remember, your opinion does not change who God is.
As for the rest of your article, I see absolutely no truth or validity in
it. Sure everyone makes mistakes and falls short of the perfection of
Jesus, but I believe that the people at Focus are doing their best to
spread the Gospel, and that they are truly seeking His wisdom.
I hope that this letter does not offend you, that was not its intent--I
simply wanted to point these things out to you.
Sincerely,
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I saw your site on link star and I don't
agree with you.
I've been a christian all my life and I wondered away from our Lord
Jesus and Focus on the Family helped me get on the right path. Please
rember that we are humans and we all make mistakes. Focus on the Family
mught have made one or two, but on the who they are very truthful and
helpful. Your website might led people away from Jesus, do you want
that?
Please reconsder your posting, some people are going to go by on what you
say, and not give Jesus a chance.
I'll pray for you,
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you are a mis-guided soul...if only you put
your energies into something
more worthwhile than critisizing 'Focus on the Family'. Take the
blinders off !!!
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Brian,
I can't believe that you could hold such a warped view of an organization
which God uses so mightily each day. What, if anything, do you propose
to be the solution to people who need to be educated to the values of the
traditional family live? How would you propose that we could "reprogram"
the countless individuals who never had proper role models for their family
life. I cannot believe, even for a moment, that F/F purports to hold
some of
the views which you spelled out.
Your web site is a blatant turnoff to the thousands of unbelievers who might
happen to stumble accross it. I wish you would temper your views in a not
so public place.
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I read with great distress your articles about abortion and Focus On the
Family. What turned you into such a cynic? What did Focus On the Family ever
do to you except speak the Truth about God and Christ and Biblical
principals? Instead of supporting your claim that FotF is "of the devil" with
facts, you spout bitterness and resentment indicative of some personal battle
you have with them and their philosophy. It seems that there must be some
painful wounding in your life that has caused you to turn to cynicism and
spout hatred.
As for the abortion article, again you do not support you thesis with facts.
You are guilty of the same error you accuse Pro-lifers of, namely, taking a
few verses out of context to support your opinion. Life is precious. Who is
to say when life begins? You either believe life begins at conception and
that each and every life is precious in the sight of our heavenly Father or
you don't. But are you to be the judge? Is it not better to err on the side
of conservatism, in believing that since there must be a beginning to life,
that that life begins at conception rather than at some point decided
arbitrarily by some judge? There are moral absolutes, and there will be a day
of reckoning. I prefer to stand on the side of life, whether in the womb or
out, whether old or young.
I hope that you will allow the Lord to heal whatever pain has caused you to
be so full of bitterness and close-minded.
God bless you with His grace and mercy.
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I love you, you are GREAT!
finally, someone who has written what I with my 140 plus iq and ba in
religion and perpective could not. god bless you
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It is evident from the handful of essays I have read that you have no
idea what it means to be a born again child of God. Every living human
is fallen - that means sinful. We are doomed to eternity without God.
But, the death and resurrection of Jesus gives us a source of power to
become the sons of God. Christianity is not in the Sermon on the Mount.
It is in the person of Jusus Christ, and putting our faith in Him and
His completed defeat of sin. When Christ rose from the grave, the Devil
lost it all.
Sure, Christians still screw up sometimes. They do at times and in some
cases do things that most believers would condemn. But, no Christian
ever can be perfect until the day we see our Lord facd to face. God
loves even you. He does not want any of us to be separated from Him.
But He has given us the free choice. Jesus Christ or the outer darkness.
I don't need to read any more of your hate centered writing to know that
I don't need it. I know where you are coming from, now.
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Dear Brian,
I read your post on Focus on the family and feel like I should respond.
I will not take much of your time. Throughout you post it was obvious
that you have not followed your arguement with logical premises and
conclusions. If you are going to spend time on the net "serving God"
please spend some time being Biblically acurate. God is not illogical.
I find that your post is full of fallicies. I hope you spend time
cleaning up yourself before you go to clean up others.....check out
God's view of the beam in you own eye before....
Willing to correspond,
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Hi Brian,
I believe it is always important to be open to the truth.
You and I have beliefs we hold and we will either do what we can to
defend our positions or we will be open to new input and "update" our
beliefs.
I read your article in order to see whether you had some new insights
which
could enlighten me about Focus on the Family. Your characterization of
Dr. Dobson (he never admits his imperfection) is inconsistant with what
I hear on Focus on the Family on a regular basis. He clearly is not perfect
and he acknowledges this often. Further, the example he projects is for the
most part consistant with my understanding of the Gospel message. The core
of this message being, "We are to love God with our whole heart and mind, and
love our neighbor as ourselves".
I suspect there is something else "going on" with you which would explain
the inconsistancy of your observations with what actually is going on.
I challenge you to reflect on the messages of Christ's love which "set you
off". The truth will set you free. Watering it down or distorting it
will hurt
only ourselves.
God Bless,
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Thank you for having such a great page exposing the true sinister nature
of
Focus on the Family. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Godspeed.
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I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO SORT THROUGH ALL OF YOUR WRITINGS.
ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH YOU ON EVERYTHING, I DO
DEFINATELY SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. YOU DEFINATELY SEEM
BITTER ABOUT SOMETHING, OR MAYBE, YOUR JUST SICK TO DEATH OF
HYPOCRITICAL CHURCH PEOPLE. PART OF ME WONDERS WHY YOUR
VENTING SO MUCH ANGER IN YOUR MESSAGE, BUT PART OF ME
UNDERSTANDS COMPLETELY. I GUESS THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT AS
CHRISTIANS WE ALL STRUGGLE. NOT ONE OF US IS PERFECT, ONLY CHRIST
IS. SO, FOR ANYONE; CHURCH'S, PASTOR'S, JAMES DOBSON, FOCUS ON
THE FAMILY, YOU, ME, ANYONE TO ACT AS IF THEY ARE IS A LIE. THE
PROBLEM I HAVE WITH ALL OF YOUR POINTS IS THAT, THIS IS NOT THE
ANSWER. THERE ISN'T ONE. THE ONLY THING WE SHOULD DO, AS A
CHRISTIAN IS TRY OUR BEST TO BE AS MUCH LIKE CHRIST AS WE CAN.
COMING ON THE INTERNET AND VENTING ABOUT THE ILLS OF CHRISTIANITY
IS ONLY HURTING THE VERY GOD YOU'RE THAT I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO
SERVE. MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE PUT HER TO WIN OTHERS
TO CHRIST. ALLTHAT YOU'RE DOING IS SPLITTING CHRISTIANITY IN TWO.
YES, PEOPLE DO NEED TO FIND OUT WHY THEY BELIEVE FOR THEMSELVES,
BUT PASTOR'S AND TEACHERS ARE THERE FOR A REASON. WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY TEACHERS? YOU WOULD HAVE A BUNCH
OF PEOPLE THAT KNEW ABSOLUTLY NOTHING ABOUT CHRIST, AND A SELECT
FEW THAT DID. THAT'S NOT HOW YOU SPREAD THE GOSPEL. ALL I'M SAYING
IS, YOU CAN'T CONDEMN EVERY CHURCH, PASTOR OR PERSON OUT THERE
THAT DOESN'T WILLFULLY SHARE WITH YOU ALL OF THERE DEEPEST DARKEST
STRUGGLES. THE SHAME AND FAILURE THAT YOU FEEL BECAUSE OF SIN IS
THE SAME AS ANYONE ELSE'S. I HOPE THAT I AM TALKING TO A FRUSTRATED
CHRISTIAN AND NOT SOME ATHIEST OR OTHER PERSON THAT WOULD LOVE T
TO SEE CHRISTIANITY FALL. IF YOU ARE THE FRUSTRATED CHRISTIAN I HOPE
YOU SEE THAT YOUR FORUM IS NOT HELPING, BUT HURTING. I ALSO HOPE
THAT YOU WILL NOT TAKE MY WORDS AS JUDGEMENTAL, BUT OUT OF
LOVE FOR ANOTHER CHRISTIAN BROTHER.
DOING MY BEST, TO DO ALL HIS WAYS, ALL MY DAYS
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Have you ever read or listened to Dobson???
You definitly created a "straw-man". I have listened to
him several times. I have read one of his books. In both
he acknowledges his sinfulness - his struggles.
I do not understand why you attack him??? What did he ever
do to you???
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I think you are making some huge assumptions. You are assuming that A. Your
young Christian has missed from the pulpit, the Bible, and christian books
that ultimately our example is Christ and the Bible, not any one persons
interpretation of the Bible. B. Secondly, he as missed that we are
never to
make idols for ourselves.
Not our pastors, our favorite authors, money or any other thing of this
world. If your senario played out, you could accuse any church, pastor,
Christian leader, etc... of being of the devil. And by the way. The whole
point of needing a Savior is that we don't measure up.
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I am writing because I DO NOT agree with what you are saying
about Focus on the Family.I listen to Adventures in
Odyssey, it is produced by Focus on the Family, and
Adventures in Odyssey gives moral values and it makes
us want to read the Bible alot more. I have become a
whole lot better Christian because of FOCUS ON THE FAMILY
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for reading this
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you are out to lunch!!!!!!!!!! the lord rebuke you!!!!!! YOU are a son of
the devil himself
bu the way.......... the rest of your stuff is mindless drivvel
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I just finished reading two of your articles on the Internet. The first was
regarding Focus on the Family, the second was about fascism in the Church.
After reading these articles I felt I should take you up on your
invitation to
respond. I found your article regarding Focus on the Family to be rooted
in a
false perception. It isn't my intetion to be insulting in any way, but
as a
semi-regular listener to Dobson I found your accusations to be untrue. I
have
found that he presents himself NOT as some idol to be followed instead of
Christ, but as a fellow pilgrim who is very honest about his failures as
well as
his successes. Your article about fascism in the Church I thought had
some good
points. But I would remind you that although no church is perfect, there are
many out there that are preaching the Gospel with no discrimination
involved. I
would also encourage you not to be so negative lest you fall into the
trap of
bitterness. Not only will you become bitter but you will bring others
down as
well. Christ didn't just tear people down, He offered them a positive,
wonderful alternative. Look for the good and cultivate a thankful heart
while
at the same time aproaching life with your eyes wide open. If you have
the time
(I expect you're getting a lot of mail lately) please respond.
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I find exception with your rhetoric. What makes you any different than
what you are portraying others? Two things you are overlooking in your
self proclaimed ministry (small m on ministry), is 1. Love
Don't see it in ANYthing you are saying....that makes what you say
invalid as seen by spiritual people. They automatically recognize it,
even if they don't know how to verbalize it. How would they be able to
express their ideas to you, obviously your having fun with them, trying
to mess with their minds. They should just recognize what you are and
ignore you. But, I have to admit I am guilty also. I want to bark back
at a barking dog. 2. You obviously don't know about Spiritual Warfare!
I would be willing to bet you are a sports nut??? You seem to have a
desire to do Spiritual Warfare, but are missguided. I hope you can
channel your energies into the direction that God wants. You need to
stop trying to operate in the Flesh and start moving in the Spirit.
Are you Born Again? If yes, then great....check out your focus...we
wrestle not against flesh and blood (focus on family) but against
principalities, and powers....etc. (you know the drill). Your fight
should be focused on reclaiming the land for God. Pull down the High
Places. Spiritual wickedness in High Places! Pull them down, and these
groups you dissagree with, if you are right in your thinking, will be
brought down with the Spiritual Wickedness! It would only be a matter of
time, then everyone would recognize "The Devil" in bad groups. Fight the
good fight, not against men, (you are wasting your time and energies),
but War in the Spirit! You don't me or anyone else to tell you more. If
you ask God for Truth in what I've touched on, then HE will show you what
you need to know. Spiritual battle is a lot more fullfilling that what
you are doing. By the way, you will be less interested in sports then,
you will be too involved in the real meaning for man in God's Kingdom.
Good luck and God Bless
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Dear Elroy:
I read your "document" and found it to be indicative of someone who is
paranoid and vindictive.
Clearly, you must be a disgruntled former employee of "Focus" or were
somehow "wronged" by this group, and in some strange logic this is your
justification for revenge. (How much money have you spent on this
Internet sight?)
Your document is, frankly, bullshit. This is akin to someone whose life
was saved in a drowning accident suing the rescuers for rope burns on
his/her arms.
In a world where there is so much negative, so much hatred, so much
degredation and disrespect for God, moral values, etc., people like you
try and throw water on what little flame of hope exists for the Light.
Christ nows Dobson's heart. The Bible also says to judge a tree by it's
fruit. Dobson's ministry is producing truckloads of awesome fruit. Your
heart is bitter. And the fruit you are producing is...........???????
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You need to take the steps to freedom. Read Bondage Breakers. You are
the one deceived. I will pray for you.
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I don't know where you are coming from but, I have personally heard all
of the regulars and guests on Focus on The Family express just what you
are denying they say. They do extol Jesus Christ as the only answer, and
often state that it is not easy to be a Christian. I have never once
heard Doctor Dobson, or anyone else on the program use themselves as
examples to be followed, except in the sense that we all need to follow
one another in our devotion to Christ. The grace of God in Juesus Christ
is the only authority I have ever heard from the Focus on The Family
broadcasts.
Do you have any evidence to back up these assertions or are you just
venting your hatred. My the Spirit of God reveal you to yourself and
your readers.
My name is not private when I speak to praise Jesus Christ. This is to
be considered a public comment.
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One last time. Sorry for clogging your e-mail but I just read your last
article here and I am fasinated by some of your views. I really liked the
one on breaking the church windows and agree with a lot of what you say.
If I may I would like to share that one with some friends. The article I
am referring to now is The Fascism of Modern Churches. You are right that
we do judge people who are lower in society than us but you know it works
the other way too. I am not a wealthy person by far, but am comfortable
(whatever that is supposed to mean) I don't live on the streets and I
never go hungry. I have encountered people in our church who look down
with disdain on people who have money and they won't let anyone minister
to them unless you are at their "monitary" level. To me this is very
frustrating and I often downplay the fact that I have money to go out to
an occaisional lunch with a friend or am able to put Twenty dollars in
the Sunday School collection sometimes. I don't want to feel this way, I
want to be able to be a source of help to all people at all levels in
life. That may be why God sent Jesus, not as a king but as a poor person
with no posessions. But how does that help me to keep people from
misjudging me just because I am able to give money to the church and to
anonymously help support the needy families in our community. I am no
less a Christian than you or any poor or needy person and yet I am at
times made to feel evil for posessing enough money to live a comfortable
life by the very people I am able to help. I don't think I suffer from
the sin of Christian Piety. I believe God made us all and gives us all
opportunities we can either take or deny. I try to grab each opportunity
to share Christ with others and I do have many friends (some Christian
and some not) who I feel comfortable loving and caring for. I also work
with the youth in our church and it breaks my heart to see how much they
have seen and been hurt already by our society's judgement on people.
They wonder why we can't just accept people where they are. If someone
feels that their talents serve God by having money and broadcasting on a
radio can show the power of God's love, who are we to say they are not
sincere or that it is from God. It takes a world of Christians to get a
message of love and salvation to these kids sometimes. They see it at
youth group and then go out into the community only to hear someone
denying or talking hatefully about someone who teaches about Christ. What
a message. I think we serve them best by explaining daily that Jesus died
for us and continues to love us even though we are the ones who put him
on the cross with our messages of hate, distrust, and conceit or peity as
you put it. I have lived as a very poor person, having to scrounge for
pennies to buy our baby milk and I have lived through difficult times and
seen more sadness and hopelessness than I would have dreamed imaginable
in my own youth. But the good news is that Jesus is still with us and no
matter who the messenger is, be he poor or be he rich or be she a radio
announcer or youth pastor, the message must and does reach beyond our own
existances. Praise God for that!!
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Ok - I have read a couple more of your articles and can pretty much tell
where you are coming from. You know you are just as hypocritical as you
say Dobson and the Christian Coalition is. It seems to me you have a few
skeletons in your closet or maybe not in the closet but you seem to be
desperately trying to justify them. Why belittle someone for the good
they may be doing for some one else. Some of the things you say about
abortion and gays is great and just what those people want or need to
hear at this point in their life. Fine. People who listen to focus on the
family, listen because that is what they believe and what they need to
hear in their life. If they didn't want to hear and were so offended they
should turn it off the way I do with so much of the garbage on TV that is
pushed on us!! Let me tell you that the smut on TV has a far greater
audience than Dobson does so the little bit of Christ that he can spread
goes a long way. All the quotes you made from the Bible are from the Old
Testament. I wonder why you disreguard the New Testament since that is
where true Christianity comes from. Jesus came to teach about love and
acceptance of all people. That doesn't mean that we accept all that they
do and sin is not what we want to say it is but what God says it is. He
is the only one we need to be accountable to in the end. If you truely
feel comfortable with the life you lead and the actions you take in
Christ's name, knowing he is your savior and walking right beside you,
then why make attacks on someone else's views. You know I believe Jesus
walks with James Dobson too. He loves him the same as you and all the
unborn children in the world. Why spend so much of your time trying
desperately to tear down others ministry when you have such potential of
your own to get a message of Christ's real love out to the world? I guess
my view is, if you live by what you truely believe and Christ is in your
heart in all you do, God will take care of the rest in his own time. We
don't need to take a chance of entering in to evil ourselves by saying or
doing unjust things to others. I hope you would keep me in your prayers
as will keep you in mine.
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I just read your little dissertation on why Focus on the Family is evil.
It doesn't make much sense to me unless you are that poor misguided
"Christian". If one is really a Christian they know that by God's Grace
we have Jesus Christ who has forgiven us before we have sinned and before
we were ever born. I also listen to James Dobson and Focus on the Family
and I have a much different view than you obviously do. I have heard Mr.
Dobson speak of mistakes he has made and of times when he should have
followed Christ more closely. Of course we all have times when we don't
do the "right" thing! If we didn't we would have no need of the
salvation that is ours to claim. No one knows that better than James
Dobson. He also many times has guests on that speak to our every day
lives and struggles. People who have been down in the gutters of life and
show how the promises God has made us helped lift them out. If this
Christian Friend has misinterpreted that it is not the fault of the
program, but what about his fellow Christians helping him and holding him
up? Christianity is NOT a radio show, it is life which includes all the
people around us! We certainly don't hear that message from the liberal
press or those goofy TV shows you mentioned! We can at least take a good
message from Focus on the Family and only a very weak, shallow,
sheltered,Christian could be so negative to take a message from the
program as you did. The program has helped me in my faith journey which
has not been where it should be until just recently, and I believe that
many more people can say that about Focus on the Family, than can say it
has hurt them. That is not to say I follow or agree with everything that
is said on the program, but then God did give us a mind of our own and a
free will to follow him or not depending on our beliefs. Thanks for the
food for thought though, and for helping me to make my views and
convictions even stronger. We all need that sometimes.
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Brian, you look normal enough, but obviously you have many problems. I
was
looking for Focus on the Family's homepage and my web search brought your
article against them up. I was appalled. I could write pages to rebut you
but I don't think it is worth my time. I don't think you would be open to
hear. I suspect you have been a very deceived person and the enemy is
using
you to attack the christian community, and especially FOTF. I'll say a
quick prayer for you that the Lord would illuminate your darkened heart
and
bring you into HIS marvelous light to be transformed . God help you.
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Hi!
I am fascinated with your work. What Church do you belong to?
Tim Broderick
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Dear Brian,
I read your article about "Focus on the Family" and
could not believe that you felt a fine organization such as
"Focus" hands out so many lies. I read the article thinking
that you might have some degree of merit to your argument;
however, I found no trace of evidence supporting your views. If
you plan to continue such criticism, you should use examples of
specific ways the organization is "of the Devil". As far as
your comments on role models is concerned, you seem to have
really misunderstood the program's intent. "Focus" has helped
me apply their advice to my life by showing how God has worked
through others and how He can work through me, as well. As I
have listened to the radio show for the past few years, I have
heard many, many guests discuss how they had failed in life
until Christ's perfect love and grace picked them up and helped
them through their trials, even if those trials were not over
yet. Please re-evaluate your argument, and try praying to God
for guidance as you do so. I think you might see a different
side of "Focus on the Family" if you do so.
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Brian:
I read your Web essays on religion, and I liked them a lot. I felt that
I
could identify with a lot of stuff you were saying.
I am currently undergoing a withdrawal from US-style Evangelical
Christianity. I am a former atheist that tried to believe for almost 5
years. It didn't quite take.
I am taken to believe that you are a non-fundamentalist Christian. If
you
have any desire and a little bit of time, please acknowledge this
message.
I would like to send you a few questions, if you don't mind, of course.
Again, thanks for your insights.
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Read your story about how the Focus on the Family causes the young man to
lose his faith. You never say what falsities are broadcast by Focus, or
why they are false. I have been following Focus (I live in Colorado
Springs) for several years, and I can't imagine what false information
you are talking about. Unless the organization is telling lies about
something, your story has no merit.
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If your article, "Why Focus on the Family is of the devil" is a Christian
perspective, what is it that you base your Christianity on?
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"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for
light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for
bitter!"
Isaiah 5:20,KJV
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I was, to say the least, appalled by what I read in your pages.
If you have a problem with Dr. Dobson, you have an obligation to take the
matter up with him, not air it like this in a public forum. See Matthew
chapter 18.
If you wish to interpret Scripture, I suggest you start by asking the
Holy Spirit for guidance. I found your exegesis of the verses you used to
support your views on abortion to be totally outrageous. I wouldn't
attempt to try to back up my views on abortion with Scripture. I'm afraid
any attempt to do so will only lead one to interpret verses in a way
which supports pre-conceived ideas.
I would be interested to learn about your salvation experience and your
views on Jesus. When I have time, I'll return and read the rest of your
pages.
For now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you to be a
brother in Christ and will therefore pray for you and ask God to guide
you and bless you.
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Brian,
Thanks for getting back to me. I feel that I have a better understanding of
your positions and am satisfied that you are a brother in the Lord.
I am not a defender of Focus on the Family or James Dobson. I don't listen
to Dr. Dobson on a regular basis but I have heard some of his shows and have
enjoyed some of the guests he has had on. I definitely do not agree with
everything I hear and see there but I'll leave my criticism for them.
As far as conservative Christianity is concerned, I agree that there is a
spiritual arrogance that is pervasive among the more conservative brethren
and definitely a lack of love and even a pharisaical legalism. I prefer to
confront this directly with people I know rather than in public forum. I
don't see a benefit in airing Christianity's dirty laundry in public. It
seems to me that this is confusing to new Christians and does harm to the
spreading of the Gospel.
I am not disagreeing with your views. I really haven't taken the time to
study your writings that closely yet. I am just concerned about the methods
you are using and wondering if you're going about this in a way that would
be honoring to Christ. That's between you and Him but I feel that I have an
obligation as a brother to share my concern with you.
Regarding the abortion issue, if I misunderstood your presentation, I
apologize. I gave the piece a cursory reading. I'll take another look at it
as time allows.
I question your statement regarding homosexuality and your assertion that
Scripture is unclear on this subject. I think scripture is very clear. Of
course, I can't excuse the treatment that homosexuals get from the Christian
community but that again is another issue.
I appreciate your taking the time to share your views with me. I think you
and I probably disagree on many things but I trust that we can find unity in
the bond of Christ and enjoy a thoughtful discussion.
In His Love,
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There are many things I could say regarding this little diddy but one I
will say is that I disagree with your view. I have heard James Dobson
many times tell about his shortcomings and life problems in letters and
on the air. I do believe that anyone looking to a person to model
themselves after in Christianity is just buying trouble because we ALL
have our problems and imperfections. I think God wants us to fellowship
together to help each of us work on our problems together, not try to
hide them from each other, thats a pride thing. Focus on the Family has
helped me tremendously through the last 4 years but I also realize that
everyone sees things differently.
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I've been listening to Focus On The Family for many years and believe they
are doing a great service for all Christians.
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Dear Brian,
Jesus Christ is the only sinless human in the history of the human
race. That is why it is only through Him that any other human may have
eternal life. Jesus is the perfect role model. He fully understands how
difficult life on Earth is. God's laws and commandments are only a
mirror to
show us that we have no hope except through Him. Jim Dobson and Focus On
The
Family are fully aware of this and state it repeatedly. Make no mistake
about it, there is a spiritual war raging. Please take it upon yourself
to
read God's word and filter your every thought through it. You may soon
discover that forces of darkness are very active in your life as they are
in
every believer's life. Becoming a Christian is an invitation for Satan
to
attack and there is a 100% chance that he will. A new Christian, weak in
faith and understanding, is by far Satan's favorite target. Not only is
that
person seeking spiritual answers, they soon discover how difficult the
Christian life is. Jesus could have had anything he desired while he was
on
Earth. That is exactly what Satan tempted Him with. But Jesus, our
perfect
role model, knew that this world is only temporary and there is no life
except by the hand of God. Jesus chose His Father's perfect plan for His
life despite His certain, painful death. Jesus' life defined the
Christian
life. It is far easier to be of the world than of Heaven, but much more
costly in the long run of eternity. Satan is the defeated master lier,
don't
be part of his world. Choose life, choose Jesus Christ and His perfect way.
One In Christ,
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My dear brother, I want to commit to pray for you and your critical spirit.
It is a spirit of love that we need to see, No I am not an old timer, I am
only 32 years old, a father of three boys and husband of but one wife.
I am not a radical, but believe more good is done in the short time
God has given us here, by loving people. A critical spirit only divides,
please
brother pray about division and allow us to be a people of unity instead.
God Bless you my brother.
Till He returns.
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Your page was not worth my time. A lot of ranting and raving but no
substance. Sorry you are so uptight.
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I was a Christian long before I stared listening to Focus on the Family.
Where
did you get your ideas? FOF has been wonderful for my spiritual
developement. As
for them trying to keep people listening, not true. They always state
that
theirs isn't the only ministry to listen to: there are others and to
listen
whereever God leads. Please, sir, have your"facts" staight before yop
publish
them. Thanks. Talk to you later.
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Surely you jest! This is not a Christian perspective on anything.
God's word is the authority for Christian living. Try to base your
arguments against "Focus.." on how they stray from Christ's teachings.
By the way, "Christian" means follower of Christ. Please don't try to
express opinions about something that you obviously have no clue about!
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Nice attempt. The logic, however, is somewhat strained and suggests some
deeper, more personal issue you take with Dr. Dobson. Either that, or you
are just trying to generate mail and interest. If the latter,
congratulations!
If
the former, I wonder. . . What do you think ot the Church of the Nazarene?
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Brian,
I think you raise an interesting point. I have listened to focus on the
family since they first started. I beleive Dr Dobson is sincere.
However I believe they are caught up in legistrating morality. If a
born again Christian struggles with sin. How do you expect an unbeliever
to overcome sin.
If we as believers spent as much time talking about Jesus and the saving
power of His blood as we do abortion and political issues, the world
would be turned upside down for Christ. It is as if we are ashamed to
openingly say that Jesus can set you free from your sin. Also because
many Christians are still bound by their own sin and they find a place
where they can forget about their sin and concentrate on others. Such
as the Pharisees did.
Let me sight an example. I was raised in the guetto of north Jersey.
My family was poor and I was very neglected growing up. I married a
beautiful girl from a family that Dobson would call ideal. My mother in
law listens to Focus On the Family. And she has a buzz word for me.
She says that I am "disfunctional". I hate that term. All I ever was
was a guy who loved the Lord and is trying to get through life the best
I can. Well after 24 years of marriage my "stable" wife wants to call
it quits. She is giving up on following the Lord and obeying Him and
keeping her covenant. She has said "I know what God wants me to do but I
don't want to do it". While I am forced to learn to love her in the
face of rejection. I have been clinging to God and searching for
encouragement to do the right thing and remain faithful as the enemy
swarms around my head like bees, with temptations to give up, curse God
and die or run away. "I am disfunctional" when I stand as a soldier
against the armies of hell who have stripped me of any opportunity to
earn a living and is trying to take my dignity from me also. Like Job I
sit here having done no evil and yet I am looked upon from the Christian
Community as "disfunctional" and to be cast aside like refuse.
I called Focus On the Family and they sent me a book. 'Love Must Be
Tough' and in it James says that I must stop clinging. What does a
drowning man do? If you were slipping off a cliff and I came up to you
and said, "Stop clinging to me and let go and trust God". If you did
let go wouldn't you fall and punge into the bolders below? I think you
would be better served if I reached down and let you cling to me and
pulled you up. Another thing that James said in that book was "Pretend
like you don't care about her and she will be attracted to you again"
He used the term "Cat and Mouse" Marriage is not a cat and mouse game.
It is a covenant between two people of which the very existance of a
vow demands that there will eventually be a test.
I have been a Christian for 26 years and yet I have never felt like I
fit in. I am not an attractive person anymore. The dispair I have felt
for 4 years over the rejection of my wife has made not take very good
care of myself. I have gained 30 or so pounds. Because I cannot find a
job I can't buy clothes that will fit me. My heart has been broken and
the Christians around me call me a basket case.
My wife on the other hand is very beautiful. Insodently she is still
with me. She has a job and is being blessed. Everyone loves her. I
have cried from memorial day to labor day and not one of those
functional Christians came to me and put their arm on my shoulder and
said "I'll stand with you" The best any of them could say is "I don't
know what to say" Which proves that they are not as spiritual as they
think they are because if they were they would know what to say.
In all the years that I listened to focus on the family I never got
anything to prepare me for the trials in life. Like you said they only
made me feel like I never measured up. All those years they simply
entertained me. They bought in rich and famous people to showcase the
shows. Always the sensational. Never the common guy who was
struggling. Always someone with a new book. A famous coach who started
promise keepers. A famous football player whose wife wanted to leave
him. How about the guy whose wife wants to leave him, whose kids hate
him and he can't find a job and they are shutting off his electricity
and they shut off his phone and he has no self respect yet he says
"Though You slay me Lord yet will I trust You"? How many Christians are
there out there like me? I know that I am in good company. Moses,
Joseph, Job, Hosea. Do you think God would have said to Hosea when his
wife was out whoring around "Now Hosea, just pretend that you don't care
and she come running after you" or how about the tough version. God
tells Hosea to say to Gomer "Now Gomer you have got to make up your
mind. If your not gonna stop whoring around I'm gonna throw you out.
You know I'm showing you tough love" Do you think that advise would
have helped. I don't think that that was the point that God wanted to
make.
Well I do go on. All and all I do agree with you as far as the damage
that that influence can cause. It breed Pharisees. Just from seeing
many of the letters to the editor proves that. I don't think that
Jesus would inspire the hate mail that you have gotten.
Thank You
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Satan is misleading you and I pray that your eyes will be open to the
truth.
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Why dont you take time to listen to the program more often. Sounds like your
a very bitter person. Hope you find what you are looking for and need. God!
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Hello, Elroy.
I enjoyed your articles on Focus on the Family and other topics. Your good
reasoning betrays, I think, a bit of insincerity in much of what you have to
say. I suspect some of your statements are a bit tongue-in-cheek, since
you're obviously too smart to believe things like "religious broadcasters
who encourage listeners to continue tuning in are setting themselves up as
the ultimate moral authority" (paraphrase, of course). Your motive? Maybe,
like me, you're just tired of lazy Christian minds. If so, thanks for a
little encouragement to think about tough issues--like whether the
evangelical Christian community has idolized some of its leaders. Or, maybe
you're just tired of the road traffic in Colorado Springs in the morning as
the mass of Focus staff heads to work. Best wishes, in any event.
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Dear Elroy,
Your treatment of Focus on the Family was one of the weakest arguments of
anything that I have read recently. There are only two conclusions that
I can come to: 1) The "Christian" you portrayed was either a thinly and
biasedly sketched fictional character or 2) yourself. If the first is
true, then I suggest you come up with hard facts to support your position
and not editorial huey just to raise a few eyebrows. If the second is
true, then I am truely sorry for your unintentional disenchantment.
Either way, taking public pock-shots at a ministry (whether you consider
them that or not) is no more Christian than the very un-Christian acts
that you accuse them of. We are commanded to pray. That's it pray. And
if your motives were truely that of Christ that's exactly what you'd be
doing, not waging your personal little war. But I don't think that your
motives are that of Christ. Instead, I think that you thrive on
controversy (I read your 'editorial' headlines). It is you, my friend
who are doing damage to God's Kingdom. And that's something I say only
to you.
For your information, however, it is Christ, not Focus on the Family,
that has called us to "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is
perfect."(Matt. 5:48)
And Paul said, "And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the
righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not
live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit."
Rom.8:3,4.
Do we as Christians sin? Of course. We will as long as we are in this
world. Are we controled by sin? No. And if we are then we are not
living according to the Spirit and that is your 'Christian's' personal
responsibility . . . and yours and mine. Each for our own lives before
God, who has graciously given us Christ, our only hope. This
responsibility does not rest on Focus on the Family.
I've already responded more than your trite article warrented. But hear
this . . . be very careful what you attribute to the Devil. For he loves
nothing more than to divide us. And you may very well be unwittingly
acting as his instrument.
Forever in Christ,
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Dear Brian, You have a BIG problem and unfortunately you are trying to
spread it around. Your opinions on Focus on the Family and abortion are
totally wrong. You say Focus is from the devil? I think you are looking
in the mirror and fooling yourself into thinking it is someone else.
Satan has blinded YOU. May God have mercy on your soul. Please get
yourself off the internet and into some Christian counseling.
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B.E.M.
You probably get a lot of hate mail regarding your
web page about "Focus" and other church related things. Hopefully
this will be a refreshing change, though I do have a few criticisms
to make. I do agree with some of your points and can see how you
could draw some of your conclusions, even some of the ones that I
don't agree with.
I hope that your articles were written with the intent of
stimulating poeple to actually think about their relationship with
Christ and not just to bash "Focus" and the modern church in the west.
Though you tended to stretch your definitions (terrorism, fascism,
abortion) you showed some insight on most of your topics. Equating
abortion with miscarriage was a bit of a stretch, especially since
abortion is of man and miscarriage tends to be a bit more on the
natural side. And if God does permit abortion then why does he
assert a penalty for those who cause a woman to miscarry? Sorry I
don't recall the verse for this but I think you can find it since you
seem quite good at quoting the Bible.
I thought that you showed good insight about human truth in
bladerunner. Just look at the treatment of first nations people in
north america, spain and the new world... Nor can we be the saviours
of the world as you so aptly pointed out. For what do we have to
offer but physical wealth and comfort? Only Christ can be the
saviour for who else can offer eternal life?
A bit harsh on "Focus" don't you think? They do have people
struggling with sin on the show and sometimes even people that are
losing the battle. I haven't noticed them holding themselves out as
paragons of virtue, but I have noticed them saying that we can
overcome our sin through Christ who has overcome all sin.
Didn't mean to ramble. Hope you get a chance to read it all. I
did enjoy your confrontational writing style, and I hope to read more
of your work in the future, though hopefully not so venemous. Thanks
for your time.
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After reading your essay on FOF, and some letters to the editor on the
subject, I must agree with one writer, that you truly are warped!
My wife and I are firm believers first of all, in Jesus Christ. He and
only He is our role model. FOF does not put themselves above Christ as
our role model; moreover, FOF encourages us to strive toward Christ as
the example we should be every day.
I am the first to admit that I'm not a perfect Christian; I don't think
there is one as long as we live on this earth. But, to attack an
organization that is trying to encourage us towards that goal, is wrong,
and if I may use the word again, warped!
I'm praying that God's love will envelope you, and you'll take your eyes
off of men, and aim them towards the One we are to emulate--Jesus Christ.
May God bless you. He still loves you!
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Could it be that the "new believer" you reference on this home page was
once
yourself? Me thinks he doth protest too much!
May God bless you in spite of yourself and find a way to soften you very
hardened heart.
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I suggest you think about your opinions more carefully before you
publish them to the world on the internet. In your little diatribe, you
make
lots of assertions about Focus on the Family without offering a shred of
evidence. I have been a Christian for about 16 years and have benefitted
immensely from this organization's radio programs, videos, and printed
materials. Never once have I heard Dobson or anyone else in Focus on the
Family say that all of their opinions regarding Christian living should
be
applied to everyone. Often, the opinions Dobson expresses on the radio
are
just that: opinions. He makes this perfectly clear, as anyone listening
critically would realize. At times, Dobson does make statements about
how he
thinks Christians in general ought to live. When he does this, he makes
arguements based on the Bible, which he is entitled to do. Anyone
listening
can accept or reject his biblical arguments as they see fit.
Furthermore, Dobson does NOT publically hold himself out to be a
perfect Christian without sin or stuggles. He does NOT hold himself out
as a
"idle." He has never even remotely suggested this, and (of course) you
offer
NOT ONE IOTA of evidence that he has. Have you bothered to read any of
his
books? Have you ever seen him interviewed? Have you ever seen any of
his
videos? I have. In none of them does he come across as someone who
knows
all the answers and never sins.
I have met James Dobson. He is a humble, gentle, godly man who
deserves our respect. He does not demand that we agree with all of his
opinions. We need not do so. He would be the first to say that
Christians
are accountable to God and not to him. Sir, I would suggest that Satan
loves
it when Christians attack each other for no good reason. Please think
before
you do so again.
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Mr. McKinley,
I have one question for you. Have you ever listened to a FOF program, read
one of Dr. Dobson's books, etc?
I listen on & off, depending on if I feel a program is about something I
should hear or not, and Dr. Dobson & his guests are constantly talking about
their own failures & how they've overcome them THROUGH Christ, not on their
own. AND I've never once, subliminally or otherwise, heard them say they
were perfect. However, there are some radio progs as well as TV progs out
there that are a little "over the edge". I'm not sure why you've taken
up a
vendetta (sp?) against FOF, but I think you need to check your facts. P.S.
Jesus told us time & time again in the New Testament to encourage one
another, I believe that's what Focus tries to do. I write this, not in
defense of FOF, but in the interest of not wanting a GOOD tool of God's
to be
cut down on the basis of someone's hurt feelings or misinformation. There
are enough people, non-Christians, who do that already. Think about it.
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You are of the Devil for putting out this garbage!!!! Focus on the
family has helped more people than what you want to accept!! Focus
is a Christian built organization whether you like it or not!!!
Focus has helped many see how to help our nation turn around from
their sins (for example: abortion, homosexual living, etc. I don't
know where you stand about all this but the Bible clearly speaks out
against these type of things. Focus is built upon the Bible and if
youreally want to be helped it is there to be a help. No I don't
always agree with everything, but just because we aren't from the
same church belief does not mean we have to drag each other down and
try to destroy the good they are doing.
May God forgive you and your feelings and the hard things you have
brought against them because they AREN'T true.
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Mr. McKinley --
So Focus on the Family is evil because they encourage moral
standards? Are we NOT to imitate Christ? Jesus doesn't ask us
to BE Christ, but to imitate Him in all we do. It's plainly
obvious we will never succeed; humans will always fall short.
But why should we give up the fight entirely?
The whole walk of life is a series of trips, stumbles, and
get-back-ups. Not to stay prostrate and sulk in our inabilities
and faults.
I must say, you are one severely warped person.
And please don't take that positively.
May you, one day, see the TRUTH.
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I visited your Web page for the first time today. I was a very disappointed
that you
wrote an article bashing Focus on the Family. Though I do not consider
myself
to be a very conservative Christian I have profitted much from their radio
broadcasts,
magazine, etc. I know of many others, who like myself struggle to live a
Christian
life, that have much respect for this organization. I have found this
organization to be a good, refreshing voice of sound Christian and family
values in a society that strains
family life today. My sense from reading your articles is that you are
filled with much
anger and most likely a good deal of underlying hurt. It is very typical
that people with
such "baggage" project/transfer these issues onto people, organizations,
churches,
etc. I would ask you to examine if this is the case in your life.
Sounds to
me like
your experience in the fundamentalist church you belonged to as a kid was not
the
best, upbuilding experience. I, like many Christians, know
the cycle of sin/shame/self-hatred well. But I will say that I have found
many Christians
in my church (Roman Catholic) who have helped me out of that cycle and to be
a sacramental witness of God's love and forgiveness. This is the answer for
the Christian -- receiving the forgiveness of Jesus. The answer is not to
bash other groups who uphold virtues and values that have stood the test of
time. I will pray for you.
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Hi Brian,
I believe your FOTF article is accurate, and it is great to see someone
steadfastly defending God among us as our example. To the degree that other
models conflict and fail to challenge us in every area of life to a more
radical discipleship and faithfulness to God among us, they are idolatrous.
And for a Christian struggling between following Jesus and FOTF, your
article accurately portrays their struggle. But I believe your article only
addressed half the issue, because it didn't address the reality of
self-righteousness. Many people can be perfectly happy in FOTF, because the
standard shrinks to some form of self-justifying morality. The follower
DOES measure up to being a good Christian. That's the whole point of it.
The traditions of men are substituted for the absolute demand of God in
Jesus Christ. The only time when what you are discussing occurs is when a
Christian continues the struggle between the demand of God he reads about in
his NT, and the self-justifying morality of these types of organizations.
Thanks again for the article,
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Ran across your FOTF article today, and read it with interest.
I am not a Focus 'fan', so this is not a defense of them. Rather,
my interest was piqued by your description of a 'new Christian'.
One does not 'say the right words' to become a Christian. Salvation
is by grace through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ -
plus nothing, minus nothing. When I received Christ as my Saviour
in 1978, I didn't say the 'sinner's prayer'. I simply acknowledged
my sinful nature and my inability to gain heaven on my own merits.
Then I asked Jesus Christ to come in to my heart and change my
life. And He did. You don't have to say the same words I do to get
saved. But you do have to genuinely repent of your sin and turn to
Christ as your only hope of salvation. That's what the Bible says.
I agree that Focus can be dangerous. However, the danger is not in
idolizing fallen humans as role models (I won't argue that it never
happens), rather it is in 'psychologizing' the Faith. Dobson
appears to be sliding down the slippery slope of sin as disease,
even taking up the Alchoholics Anonymous philosophy - you know, the
'It's not my fault' syndrome.
Christians fight real forces of evil. You certainly will lose focus
by focusing on Focus on the Family (sorry). The answer, however, is
found in the New Testament local church. There, a God-lead pastor
preaches and teaches from God's word to children of God who receive
the word and let it change their lives. The church is not a museum
for saints - it is a hospital for sinners.
Herein lies the danger of FOTF. It detracts from Christ's great
commission, which includes the local church.
Thanks for reading all this. Talk to you again, perhaps.
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IT SEEMS THAT YOU HAVE SOME REAL HEARTBURN WITH ' FOCUS' , BUT YOU DIDN'T
SUPPORT ANY OF YOUR ACCUSATIONS. YOU MUST HAVE A SECRET REASON FOR
ATTEMPTING TO DEFACE SUCH A FINE ORGANIZATION AS 'FOCUS ON THE FAMILY. IF
YOU'VE EVER READ THE SCRIPTURES YOU WILL FIND THAT THOSE AT 'FOCUS' FOLLOW
IT WORD FOR WORD. MAYBE YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THEIR EXAMPLE.
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Dear Brian,
I read your article "Why Focus on the Family is of the Devil" and have found
numerous doctrine errors.
First; the devil can not destroy faith. Faith is a gift from God which the
devil has no authority. Faith is not something we achieve ourselves, faith
is given. Once faith is given from God, it is here to stay. Faith is not
relative, its absolute. Eph ch. 1. Rom ch's 1-6.
Concerning sinful thoughts: "Where once he didn't care about his own evils."
In Romans Paul talks about when we become regenerated (justification by
faith alone) we become aware of the sins we were committing and that we
should say to ourselves, "what good was that of our old self." Christians
must realize that sin still haunts us because of fallen state but, being born
again removes sin from reigning as master.
"Hide his sinful struggles." I would say if a person is hanging out with a
group of Christians that are not hholding each other accountable, there is
something wrong. Changing our behavior is part of being regenerated. We
realize what pond scum we are, in other words road pizza, incapable of coming
to God without his due calling.
I'll Finish critiquing your article later I'm on a tight time schedule. "Two
subtle evils." This is dualism.
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Brian,
At first I was distressed by your writings found on the net. Then concerned.
They are so insightful as to your view and state of mind. Then I read the
fascism of modern churches.
Are you o.k.? Do you feel close to God? or are you wondering where he is?
That is the only thing I don't understand in all this? Do you have a daily
relationship with Jesus? Not a ritualistic lifestyle, do you know Him? One
on one? or do you just know to damn much for your own good?
Anyway, I wrote a really long letter to you before I got to your other
articles. I cannot E-Mail the long one, something about my modem. Anyway,
I'm not sure why I'm so compelled to continue this dialogue but I do care
about you. Your writings reflect struggles I know.
I too am tired of the conformity of christianity. The rituals of it all.
But your letters are so down. So dramatic. Who is your audience? What is
your goal?
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You accuse Focus of setting themselves up as the moral authority for
Christian Living. And I suppose demonizing them with baseless claims
such as this is not moral posturing? Why don't you spend your time more
productively by attacking the humanistic culture we already have that
seeks to erradicate any hint of God from American culture instead of
tearing down an organization that wages war with this humanism everyday
in defense of the very morals you claim it corrupts?
You write well. Focus your angst on the enemy not your brothers and
sisters in Christ.
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Dear Sir:
I do not agree with any of your views on Focus On The Family. I am
a weak Christian. I get a lot out of their programs, tapes, books, etc.
My life has improved. I do not believe they are placeing themselves on
a pedistle. I have never felt that they were perfect Christians.
However, they are role modles. You are a role model for some one. My
Dad is my role model. Jesus is the ultimate role model. I don't
understand why you have taken this position against Focus on the Family.
I pray you are right in the center of God's will. If you aren't and you
have produced this matierial against an ordained organization you will
answer to God for your deception.
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I find your letter very sad. Why destroy something that does good??
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Brian,
Sadly I think you completely misunderstand the facts concerning not
just Focus on the Family but any Radio Ministry. They cannot substitute
for your local church congregation. As far as I can tell they don't even
attempt to do so where Focus on the Family is concerned. I sense that
you are in the grip of some type of spiritual bondage. Please seek help
from a Pastor who knows the scriptures and that you think you can trust.
Take care that you , not Dr. Dobson and Company don't create a stumbling
stone for young believers.
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I find it odd that you would persecute Focus on the Family in the name of
Christ. Your letter is full of anger and embitterment, totally of the world.
You have attacked them in an underhanded way, without love or regard for
what they are attempting.
The funny thing is, it almost seems that the struggle you so adequately
describe in your article is real, it's as if it is your own struggle.
I wouldn't say I am a new believer, but I recently gave my life over to
Christ and am pressing on toward making him Lord of all of my life, and in
becoming completely obedient to Him. I think you are wrong. DEAD wrong.
Anyone who knows Jesus Christ, knows that we must confess our sin to him.
Knows that he knows our heart regardless of what we profess, regardless of
what we put on. Anyone who loves Him, obeys his commands.
So if you love Jesus, you'll stop blaming everyone else for your struggle.
You'll take responsibility for your actions. Confess your sins to Him.
Don't hold on to your attitude. Don't sin in your anger. If you are truly
a Christian, a believer in Jesus Christ, in who He is, in what He says, in
His commands, then you'll confess your bitterness and turn from it before it
kills you. Just like Judas.
Why do you care what they do, you follow Jesus. Are you following Jesus?
Are your words His words. Are you demonstrating the love He demonstrated
for you. Are you seeking the highest good of others or revenge.
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Satan sure has sold you a bill of goods -- and did you bite! Big time.
Based upon your deduction, every organized Christian fellowship,
congregation, etc. is "of the Devil." Luckily, most Christians will see
right through your scenerio and therefore it will gain little
recognition -- except, of course, by non-Christians regrettably...
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Sorry bro...
...but you are out to lunch on this one brother. Too bad your God is so small
and mean. I am a product of God's mercy, as ministered through programs like
FOF.
I wish you His light on your journey towards truth.
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I think you're wrong about how Focus on the Family has lost more souls
than saved them. I myself am an incredible example. I am only a
teenager and I have been through alot of stupid things, but at the end
the Lord was there for me and a Focus On the Family magazine Brio, helped me realize that. And now I have never been so happy. I pray every night and some miraculous prayers have been answered. The Lord does work wonders and So does Focus on the Famil
y. Just so you know I will be praying that your
attitude will change. Because even though you said all those things the
Lord loves you more than you can imagine. Focus on teh Famliy is a
wonderful organization that has helped me and many of my friends stay on
track with God. It has also encouraged us to read the Bible and pray. I
will also encourage you to look through some Focus on the Famlily
organizations so you can see they are really not inolved with Satan. I
just don't understand how someone that loves God so much be involved in
that sort of thing. And they are not. love ya in Christ!
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Dear Elroy,
Greetings in the powerful name of Jesus, the only one who can truly
sustain us. Really enjoyed your expose of Focus on the Family. Couldn't
have put it better ourselves, although we probably would have used a few
stronger adjectives. Remember, beware when all men speak well of you.
There is not one way for Jesus, and another way for us. Dobson and crew are
a perfect example of crossless Christianity. Have you noticed how much they
sell "Christian" rock and other superficial babylon garbage. I guess you
have to have something to give people in place of true Holy Ghost Power.
Visit our web site and check out our small library of on line publications.
We also send out lots of material through the post office and would be glad
to send you a sample pack if you send us back you address. Our site is
http://www2.cibola.net/~prophet. Keep up the good work. Hoping to hear
from you soon.
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